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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Philistines, not Palestinians Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Philistines (c. 1200-975 BC)

History of Palestine


About 1200 BC, one eastern Mediterranean civilization after another crumbled before the advance of the so-called 'Sea Peoples'. Ramses III of Egypt tells us: 'No country could stand before their arms… inscriptions set up in Egypt by Pharaoh Ramses III tell of assaults by the Sea Peoples against Egypt and the Canaanite cities; and that the Canaanite princes and their charioteers joined the Egyptian commanders in resisting the Sea Peoples.

The Sea Peoples attacked by sea and by land, and it look only a few years for Greece, the Hittite Empire, Cyprus and Palestine to crumble into total disarray, and Egypt almost collapsed under their attacks. How did such catastrophes occur with civilizations that had withstood countless upheavals in the past? Who were these Sea Peoples, and where did they come from.

Nobody has any definite answers, but they apparently originated from the island of Crete and consisted of five groups: the Pelesets (the Philistines), Shardanas, Denyens, and the Shekeleshs. What seems to have given them their fighting edge was their advanced iron weaponry, the manufacturing process of which they so jealously guarded.

They swiftly annihilated Mycenae, the most advanced and powerful of the ancient Greek kingdoms, and Greece was thrown into a Dark Age that lasted some 400 years. Troy was destroyed at about the same time. Hattusa, the Hittite capital in Asia Minor, was massively fortified and only an army with advanced technical skills could have breached its walls. The Sea Peoples breached it, and the Hittites were forever wiped out of history.

The prosperous Canaanite coastal cities were totally destroyed. Letters found in Ugarite, which may well date from this time of crisis, tell of looting and burning while the inhabitants of Sidon fled to Tyre.

After devastating the Canaanite cities, a great number of these Sea Peoples settled the southern coastline of Palestine, building their own cities over the ruins. They rebuilt the five towns of Gaza, Ashdod, Ascalone, Ekron and Gath. One group, the Pelesets, became known as the 'Philistines', and the Sea Peoples in Palestine became known by this name.

Their territory, the southern coastline, became known as 'Philistia'. Later, Herodotus and other Greek and Latin writers were to derive the name Palestine from Philistia, and gradually the name Palestine replaced that of Canaan.

In 1183 BC, the Sea Peoples attacked Egypt by sea and by land. The Egyptian navy, under Pharaoh Ramses III, repulsed their naval attack off the Nile Delta, while the Egyptian army fought off their attack along the Egyptian-Palestine border.

The Philistines are represented in Egyptian reliefs as fighting in ships; some manned by warriors with feathered helmets, while others show warriors with low, horned helmets. They sport a pointed kilt decorated with tassels and many have a medallion hanging on a cord around their necks. They carry a pair of spears, sometimes a full-sized rapier sword, and around shield with a handle. Their ships are powered by sail only, with a prow ending in a duck's head. In scenes of land fighting, all the warriors wear feathered helmets and they fight from a chariot with crews of three, while their families follow in wooden ox-drawn carts.

The Philistines became the most powerful group in Palestine and remained so for approximately two centuries (c. 1200-975 BC). They were governed by five 'lords' meeting in council, who co-ordinated the policies of their confederation.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Philistines, not Palestinians Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
The Philistines (c. 1200-975 BC)

History of Palestine

About 1200 BC, one eastern Mediterranean civilization after another crumbled before the advance of the so-called 'Sea Peoples'. Ramses III of Egypt tells us: 'No country could stand before their arms… inscriptions set up in Egypt by Pharaoh Ramses III tell of assaults by the Sea Peoples against Egypt and the Canaanite cities; and that the Canaanite princes and their charioteers joined the Egyptian commanders in resisting the Sea Peoples.

The Sea Peoples attacked by sea and by land, and it look only a few years for Greece, the Hittite Empire, Cyprus and Palestine to crumble into total disarray, and Egypt almost collapsed under their attacks. How did such catastrophes occur with civilizations that had withstood countless upheavals in the past? Who were these Sea Peoples, and where did they come from.

Nobody has any definite answers, but they apparently originated from the island of Crete and consisted of five groups: the Pelesets (the Philistines), Shardanas, Denyens, and the Shekeleshs. What seems to have given them their fighting edge was their advanced iron weaponry, the manufacturing process of which they so jealously guarded.

They swiftly annihilated Mycenae, the most advanced and powerful of the ancient Greek kingdoms, and Greece was thrown into a Dark Age that lasted some 400 years. Troy was destroyed at about the same time. Hattusa, the Hittite capital in Asia Minor, was massively fortified and only an army with advanced technical skills could have breached its walls. The Sea Peoples breached it, and the Hittites were forever wiped out of history.

The prosperous Canaanite coastal cities were totally destroyed. Letters found in Ugarite, which may well date from this time of crisis, tell of looting and burning while the inhabitants of Sidon fled to Tyre.

After devastating the Canaanite cities, a great number of these Sea Peoples settled the southern coastline of Palestine, building their own cities over the ruins. They rebuilt the five towns of Gaza, Ashdod, Ascalone, Ekron and Gath. One group, the Pelesets, became known as the 'Philistines', and the Sea Peoples in Palestine became known by this name.

Their territory, the southern coastline, became known as 'Philistia'. Later, Herodotus and other Greek and Latin writers were to derive the name Palestine from Philistia, and gradually the name Palestine replaced that of Canaan.

In 1183 BC, the Sea Peoples attacked Egypt by sea and by land. The Egyptian navy, under Pharaoh Ramses III, repulsed their naval attack off the Nile Delta, while the Egyptian army fought off their attack along the Egyptian-Palestine border.

The Philistines are represented in Egyptian reliefs as fighting in ships; some manned by warriors with feathered helmets, while others show warriors with low, horned helmets. They sport a pointed kilt decorated with tassels and many have a medallion hanging on a cord around their necks. They carry a pair of spears, sometimes a full-sized rapier sword, and around shield with a handle. Their ships are powered by sail only, with a prow ending in a duck's head. In scenes of land fighting, all the warriors wear feathered helmets and they fight from a chariot with crews of three, while their families follow in wooden ox-drawn carts.

The Philistines became the most powerful group in Palestine and remained so for approximately two centuries (c. 1200-975 BC). They were governed by five 'lords' meeting in council, who co-ordinated the policies of their confederation.

Most of the "sea people" were of Greek stock inhabitans of the Aegean archipelago that fought and pirated on all in the Med people including the Greeks in the mainland.
One of these people, the Shekelesh or Sikels, became the SICILIANSwhen they reached Sicily and mixed with the indigenous islanders, the Siculians and the Sicanians....one of which became....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Aoelian Reminicences of Days O' Yore Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Excellante! Superb anthropology!

(hey 'Trude,... how do get you off of the forum ignore thingie?)? Question
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Aoelian Reminicences of Days O' Yore Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

sparky wrote:
Excellante! Superb anthropology!

(hey 'Trude,... how do get you off of the forum ignore thingie?)? Question

Yep, I do know my own shit! Rolling On Floor Laughing

Now for the ignore thingy, the trick is "to get to the IGNORE page" where you can "uncheck" the box of the person that was placed under the "ignore" anathema.

My problem has always been that my Mac is too fast and I do not have time to click theHERE BOTTON TO GET TO THE IGNORE PAGE, UNTILL I FIND A SLOWER PC TO USE.

Any way, to get to the "IGNORE PAGE", after you click the word "HERE" to view a post of a person you have "ignored'', on that page (now after the next step you need to be ready to act fast) go to the top and hit the red button which will will generate the following message:
*************
User is already on ignore list
Click "HERE to go to the IGNORE page <--- (click on the HERE word)
*************

If you do the above in time (FAST) you will get to the "ignore" page.
You can THEN "uncheck" the box next to the person you "IGNORED" to UN-IGNORE" him back into existence.

Print this out and read it a few time to prepare yourself on what to do, and the proceed the the procedure.

From Sicily with l'O

TRUdEr
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:53 am    Post subject: SINGIN' a KOOL TOOON ;) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I GOT IT!!!

See?! There ARE advantages to have a dinosaur speed computer!!! Rolling On Floor Laughing Bissous - Love You All So funny! Pop worm Hilarious! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Philistines, not Palestinians Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Intruder wrote:
Most of the "sea people" were of Greek stock

So, according to you... the "Palestinians", who claim they were the original Philistines (or Sea People), were... (1) Greeks (or neo-Greeks), and... (2) people of the sea... That makes sense! That explains why they live in Gaza and have destroyed the greenhouses left to them by the Joos and why they hide in tunnels, bunkers and orchards. They are phishing!

Intruder wrote:
...inhabitans of the Aegean archipelago that fought and pirated on all in the Med people including the Greeks in the mainland.

So, the Phoenicians/Philistines, the "Sea People" - most of whom "were of the Greek stock" - then conquered the... Greeks (?) and stole Greek and others' land, just like the Joos did the Canaan...? Wow!

Intruder wrote:
One of these people, the Shekelesh or Sikels, became the SICILIANS when they reached Sicily and mixed with the indigenous islanders, the Siculians and the Sicanians....one of which became... The Truder

So Trude... according to the above, your ancestry is... Greek? No, wait, it is Phoeanician! Or is it... Palestinian? No, no, I know, you are mixed! Your great, great, great grandmother was raped by someone from the Sea People who spread his semen (or rather Sea Men) around... Is that it? Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Philistines, not Palestinians Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
Intruder wrote:
Most of the "sea people" were of Greek stock

So, according to you... the "Palestinians", who claim they were the original Philistines (or Sea People), were... (1) Greeks (or neo-Greeks), and... (2) people of the sea... That makes sense! That explains why they live in Gaza and have destroyed the greenhouses left to them by the Joos and why they hide in tunnels, bunkers and orchards. They are phishing!

Intruder wrote:
...inhabitans of the Aegean archipelago that fought and pirated on all in the Med people including the Greeks in the mainland.

So, the Phoenicians/Philistines, the "Sea People" - most of whom "were of the Greek stock" - then conquered the... Greeks (?) and stole Greek and others' land, just like the Joos did the Canaan...? Wow!

Intruder wrote:
One of these people, the Shekelesh or Sikels, became the SICILIANS when they reached Sicily and mixed with the indigenous islanders, the Siculians and the Sicanians....one of which became... The Truder

So Trude... according to the above, your ancestry is... Greek? No, wait, it is Phoeanician! Or is it... Palestinian? No, no, I know, you are mixed! Your great, great, great grandmother was raped by someone from the Sea People who spread his semen (or rather Sea Men) around... Is that it? Razz

BINGO!

......and YES, we are all sons and lovers of the RAPING DICK of the SEA PEOPLE!

By the way, as an historical coda, the descendants of one of the group of the "people of the sea" from the Aegean Archipelago were the same people that kidnapped JUIUS CAESAR in the island area off the coast of Turkey. The very same that Caesar went back and wiped out as promised during captivity.

Very interesting these SEA PEOPLE - THEMs kinn-a went all over the MED.

TRUdDr
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... AAARGH, Maties! This here be Aeolia! Laddies ... let us PLUNDER the fair maidens! Boob Flasher Stinky Duel Watch It! Napoleon Navigate
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