Settlements are legal according to International Law

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Author: Nannette,  PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Settlements are legal according to International Law
Settlements are legal according to International Law

by Ted Belman

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=17225

In Obama’s address to the UNGA he said that a peace accord must take into account the “legitimate rights of the Palestinians”. I responded with “What legitimate rights”.

I received a few requests for the legal arguments in support of my denial of any such rights.

Talia Einhorn, a law professor at Tel Aviv U. in 2001 published The Status of Palestine/Land of Israel and Its Settlement Under Public International Law. Prof. Talia Einhorn is Senior Research Fellow at T.M.C. Asser Instituut, The Hague; Professor of Law at Concordia International University Estonia; and Editor-in-Chief, European Business Organization Law Review (2000- )

After arguing that the Geneva Convention does not apply, she continues,
She goes on to discuss the refugees rights.
Author: dbdent, Location: Israel PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: READ- PUSH- UNDERSTAND
VERY IMPORTANT

http://pamelageller.com/2017/01/israel-legal-occupant-west-bank-says-court-appeal-versailles.html/
Author: Disciple,  PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject:
In Joshua 1:4 God promised Joshua that the land of Israel would include territory extending “from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Mediterranean Sea in the west.” This territory would include the land from the southern tip of Israel along the Red Sea to the Euphrates River on the east, the border of Syria on the north (land of the Hittites), and the Mediterranean Sea (Great Sea) to the west. As of yet, Israel has not controlled this entire land area.

Biblically speaking, Israel has every right to possess, occupy, and build homes in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Gaza, and far more. All of those territories are well within the borders of the land that God promised to the nation of Israel. Israel currently possesses a fraction of the land the Word of God declares belongs to it stated in Joshua 1:4. Unless the Palestinians are descendants of the tribes of Israel (and if so they would be obliged to kill themselves), they have absolutely no biblical claim to live on those lands. Whatever the case, they have no biblical basis for preventing the nation of Israel from occupying and building homes in those territories. God’s laws and decrees carry more weight than that of the UN, which is obviously a tool of the devil
Author: dbdent, Location: Israel PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject:
Disciple , not so. You misunderstand, a basic miscomprehension - the UN is also a tool or the responsibility of God.
The possession of the land mass posted by you as in Joshua comes with a condition, a very important condition.
The Jewish people merit that land on condition that they follow Gods commandments - when they do not we run the risk of being expelled as did happen in the past; and it is fair to say that our observance is not 100% , especially when we have a past Chief Rabbi about to go to jail, let alone the killings and crimes that exist on this holy land!!
Author: dbdent, Location: Israel PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject:
Disciple , not so. You misunderstand, a basic miscomprehension - the UN is also a tool or the responsibility of God.
The possession of the land mass posted by you as in Joshua comes with a condition, a very important condition.
The Jewish people merit that land on condition that they follow Gods commandments - when they do not we run the risk of being expelled as did happen in the past; and it is fair to say that our observance is not 100% , especially when we have a past Chief Rabbi about to go to jail, let alone the killings and crimes that exist on this holy land!!
Author: Disciple,  PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject:
dbdent wrote:
Disciple , not so. You misunderstand, a basic miscomprehension - the UN is also a tool or the responsibility of God.
The possession of the land mass posted by you as in Joshua comes with a condition, a very important condition.
The Jewish people merit that land on condition that they follow Gods commandments - when they do not we run the risk of being expelled as did happen in the past; and it is fair to say that our observance is not 100% , especially when we have a past Chief Rabbi about to go to jail, let alone the killings and crimes that exist on this holy land!!


Hi DB,
Hope you are well. In Deuteronomy 4:40 the Lord gave the Israelites this command: “Keep his decrees and commands, which I am giving you today, so that it may go well with you and your children after you and that you may live long in the land the Lord your God gives you for all time.” So yes your point is correct in that God’s offer is a conditional offer. Israel would have the Promised Land as they kept God’s “decrees and commands.” The Israelites had to obey God’s statutes in order to remain in the land and history reveals that the Israelites often disobeyed, resulting in temporary times of exile from their land.

However, the end of this passage notes that God is giving Israel the Promised Land “for all time.” I believe this is likely in reference to God’s original promise of a land to Abraham in Genesis 12.

There are both a conditional and unconditional aspect to God’s promise. God offered blessings within the Promised Land conditionally, related to the Israelites’ obedience as you have mentioned. Yet God also made an unconditional vow that Israel would have the Promised Land “for all time.”
Author: dbdent, Location: Israel PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject:
Thank you and same wishes to you
Yes - the land has been granted by God for the Jewish people on condition as aforementioned ; but God did make a covenant granting it to us irrespective of our behaviour. So we can lose it temporarily by misbehavior ie expulsion , but other circumstances will bring us back in, one being the bad way in which other religions or countries who are supposed to chastise us overstep the mark ie our punishment
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